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		<title>Comment on Supporter&#8217;s Letter #1 by Bob Dootson</title>
		<link>http://moelfamau.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Dootson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want some idea of what happens to the beautifull landscape, have a look at recent photo&#039;s published on http://www.leverpark.co.uk/
This is supposed to be a registered Historic Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want some idea of what happens to the beautifull landscape, have a look at recent photo&#8217;s published on <a href="http://www.leverpark.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leverpark.co.uk/</a><br />
This is supposed to be a registered Historic Park.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good for local business??? by phil</title>
		<link>http://moelfamau.com/?p=152&#038;cpage=1#comment-7</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems we face is that even some of our own local councillors appear to be backing whom they perceive to be the group with the most to lose and with the smallest voice - i.e. local businesses.  What they fail to realise is that the local businesses in favour of the development already effectively have the backing of Go Ape, of the County Council and of the forestry Commission.  Surely it is us, the local people most affected by this, whom have the most to lose and who most need the backing of our local councillors?

Councillor Evans commented in this month&#039;s News &amp; Views, relating to the Go Ape development in Grizedale...   

&quot;This community has been transformed from the extra people coming to the area&quot; - Source: http://go-ape.org/?p=69

Maybe, but has it been transformed for better or for worse, and is this site directly comparable to Moel Famau?

To be fair to Chris, I have spoken to her and I don&#039;t believe she has made her mind up one way or the other yet (please correct me if I am wrong!).  I think she is just speaking up for those she believes most need her representation at this time.  What we need to convince ALL our Councillors of is that WE are the ones who most need their support!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems we face is that even some of our own local councillors appear to be backing whom they perceive to be the group with the most to lose and with the smallest voice &#8211; i.e. local businesses.  What they fail to realise is that the local businesses in favour of the development already effectively have the backing of Go Ape, of the County Council and of the forestry Commission.  Surely it is us, the local people most affected by this, whom have the most to lose and who most need the backing of our local councillors?</p>
<p>Councillor Evans commented in this month&#8217;s News &#038; Views, relating to the Go Ape development in Grizedale&#8230;   </p>
<p>&#8220;This community has been transformed from the extra people coming to the area&#8221; &#8211; Source: <a href="http://go-ape.org/?p=69" rel="nofollow">http://go-ape.org/?p=69</a></p>
<p>Maybe, but has it been transformed for better or for worse, and is this site directly comparable to Moel Famau?</p>
<p>To be fair to Chris, I have spoken to her and I don&#8217;t believe she has made her mind up one way or the other yet (please correct me if I am wrong!).  I think she is just speaking up for those she believes most need her representation at this time.  What we need to convince ALL our Councillors of is that WE are the ones who most need their support!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good for local business??? by Bob Dootson</title>
		<link>http://moelfamau.com/?p=152&#038;cpage=1#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Dootson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.Jane
Somebody as left a comment on our website 
http://www.leverpark.co.uk/ 

everything is going to hit the fan up here, i&#039;ll keep you informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.Jane<br />
Somebody as left a comment on our website<br />
<a href="http://www.leverpark.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leverpark.co.uk/</a> </p>
<p>everything is going to hit the fan up here, i&#8217;ll keep you informed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Come Back Soon&#8230; by Bob Dootson</title>
		<link>http://moelfamau.com/?p=69&#038;cpage=1#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Dootson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you thought &quot;The Government&quot; has a lot to answer to, wait untill you&#039;ve had 2 years of knocking down brick walls that &quot;Local Government&quot; will keep building.
The &quot;Friends of Lever Park&quot; consist of honest, easy going and genuine people, and they have had their outlook on honesty turned upon it&#039;s head.
In our case, the park is protected by the 1902 Liverpool Corporation Act. And what did the Council do, they ignored it and their own Constitution, infact they ignored everything.
They didn&#039;t even send out neighbour consultation letters, nobody knew about the application untill after it was passed.
They tried something similar in 1996-7, and failed because of massive objections (over 5000).
We haven&#039;t finished with the Council yet, and we have just sumitted a new complaint with more to follow.
The complaint is this:

 May we respectfully bring it to your attention that this is a new complaint following the publication of the Local Government Ombudsman’s final decision with regard to investigation (08 012 725AS/CRB).  The investigation found the Council guilty of maladministration when it used Delegated Powers to decide a planning application (08/00553/FUL).  Therefore the meeting to discuss this application (08/00553/FUL) on the 22nd July/08 was illegal and any decision arrived at was a nullity, as the Council failed to follow its scheme of delegation.  We are of the opinion that the Corporate Director (Business) didn’t have the authority to make any decisions at this meeting, because it went against the Constitution of the Council with regard “applications excluded from Delegated Powers.”     We believe that because everything decided at the meeting (with regard planning application 08/00553/FUL) dated the 22nd July/08 was a nullity as identified, the Council should have removed the planning consent from its registers of local land charges, and the various other registers that the Planning Authority is required to keep under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.  
If you need any advice please don&#039;t hesitate to call either myself or Philjay. 
First of all you must ensure that the Council doesn&#039;t violate any of it&#039;s development plans or policies for that area, they will be set down in the Council&#039;s Constitution.
And make sure that they charge the correct fee&#039;s, they will try and get away with only charging for a reception cabin.
It must be for anything in, on, over or under the site size.
In other words the fee must be calculated for the whole of the site, and if this fee isn&#039;t paid in full with the application (it&#039;s void).
Don&#039;t object just because you don&#039;t like it (they won&#039;t consider that)
stick to policies and rules.
Wishing you all the best.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you thought &#8220;The Government&#8221; has a lot to answer to, wait untill you&#8217;ve had 2 years of knocking down brick walls that &#8220;Local Government&#8221; will keep building.<br />
The &#8220;Friends of Lever Park&#8221; consist of honest, easy going and genuine people, and they have had their outlook on honesty turned upon it&#8217;s head.<br />
In our case, the park is protected by the 1902 Liverpool Corporation Act. And what did the Council do, they ignored it and their own Constitution, infact they ignored everything.<br />
They didn&#8217;t even send out neighbour consultation letters, nobody knew about the application untill after it was passed.<br />
They tried something similar in 1996-7, and failed because of massive objections (over 5000).<br />
We haven&#8217;t finished with the Council yet, and we have just sumitted a new complaint with more to follow.<br />
The complaint is this:</p>
<p> May we respectfully bring it to your attention that this is a new complaint following the publication of the Local Government Ombudsman’s final decision with regard to investigation (08 012 725AS/CRB).  The investigation found the Council guilty of maladministration when it used Delegated Powers to decide a planning application (08/00553/FUL).  Therefore the meeting to discuss this application (08/00553/FUL) on the 22nd July/08 was illegal and any decision arrived at was a nullity, as the Council failed to follow its scheme of delegation.  We are of the opinion that the Corporate Director (Business) didn’t have the authority to make any decisions at this meeting, because it went against the Constitution of the Council with regard “applications excluded from Delegated Powers.”     We believe that because everything decided at the meeting (with regard planning application 08/00553/FUL) dated the 22nd July/08 was a nullity as identified, the Council should have removed the planning consent from its registers of local land charges, and the various other registers that the Planning Authority is required to keep under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.<br />
If you need any advice please don&#8217;t hesitate to call either myself or Philjay.<br />
First of all you must ensure that the Council doesn&#8217;t violate any of it&#8217;s development plans or policies for that area, they will be set down in the Council&#8217;s Constitution.<br />
And make sure that they charge the correct fee&#8217;s, they will try and get away with only charging for a reception cabin.<br />
It must be for anything in, on, over or under the site size.<br />
In other words the fee must be calculated for the whole of the site, and if this fee isn&#8217;t paid in full with the application (it&#8217;s void).<br />
Don&#8217;t object just because you don&#8217;t like it (they won&#8217;t consider that)<br />
stick to policies and rules.<br />
Wishing you all the best&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Come Back Soon&#8230; by philjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>philjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the wonderful world that is GoApe. You will not fight alone. We are in year 2 and whilst we have fought retrospectively we have gained immense knowledge along the way all of which is at your disposal as and when you need it. Regardless of what GoApe will say, the intrusion to the tranquility and beauty of the area has to be experienced to be believed. You need to galvanise support as soon as possible. We will monitor your campaign with interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the wonderful world that is GoApe. You will not fight alone. We are in year 2 and whilst we have fought retrospectively we have gained immense knowledge along the way all of which is at your disposal as and when you need it. Regardless of what GoApe will say, the intrusion to the tranquility and beauty of the area has to be experienced to be believed. You need to galvanise support as soon as possible. We will monitor your campaign with interest.</p>
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