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Apes Can’t Add Up

According to Go Ape’s ‘Zip Wild’ website, the prospective Moel Famau site can expect a maximum of 60 cars an hour during peak time:

The course can only accomodate a maximum of 20 participants starting every 20 minutes.  Based on research carried out on Go Ape customers, we expect the average car occupancy to be over 3 people per car.  So, Zip Wild will generate less than 10 car arrivals every half an hour.  It will take a maximum of 3 hours to complete Zip Wild so participants will be responsible for a maximum of 60 cars during the peak hours. 

As part of the development, the car park wil be improved by adding 80 extra spaces and removing the barriers, thereby reducing the cars parking on the road. 

These figures are bad enough on their own – it equates to ONE CAR EVERY MINUTE on a single track road.

But bear in mind that the comings and goings are likely to be clustered around start/end times.

Also bear in mind that this will be ON TOP OF the existing traffic, which can already bring the road to a standstill at times, as we can all testify from experience of busy weekends.

But what about worst case scenarios?

Let’s assume that, for something like corporate events, everyone turns up in their own car (very possible).  Using Go Ape’s figures of adding an hour’s worth of cars going up the hill to 2 hours’ worth coming down, we could, potentially, end up with up to SIXTY cars going up the hill, fighting against ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY cars coming down the hill, PLUS all the usual traffic!

That is   ONE CAR EVERY TWENTY SECONDS,   plus all the usual, appalling traffic!

And following on from those figures, for a car  park which is already regularly full to overflowing of a weekend, what on earth wil be the good of an extra 80 parking spaces?

It looks to me as if apes can’t add up.

More worryingly, it looks like the Forestry Commission and our own local Government are also having problems adding the numbers up – or maybe they are only looking at the numbers that this will bring to their coffers.





Jubilee Tower 200th Anniversary

On the 24th October there are celebrations planned to mark the 200th anniversary of the Jubilee Tower at the summit of Moel Famau.  Various events are planned and it promises to be a day to remember.

Full details can be found at:  http://www.jubileetower200.co.uk/.

A procession to the top is planned for late afternoon, with a lantern-lit parade back down again afterwards.  A light show by a local artist promises to light the night sky, with a spectacular firework display planned for the grand finale.

As fantastic as all this sounds, it will be interesting to see how the local infrastructure copes with the influx of extra visitors to the area - one of the arguments the Save Moel Famau group have against the threatened Go Ape development at Moel Famau.


Poppy Bike Ride 2010

Good luck…            Poppy Bike Appeal

 

… To Eifion Williams of Loggerheads Garage, currently taking part in this year’s Royal British Legion ‘Pedal to Paris’ event!

There is more information here, and details of how you can support Eifion in this worthy cause here.

The 4 day event kicked off yesterday, so it’s not too late to show your support!

Supporter’s Letter #1

Dear Supporter,

Here is an update on the situation with regard to Go Ape’s plans for Zip Wild on Moel Famau and our opposition to their proposals.

No Planning Application has yet been made but we hear that Go Ape have started their Environmental Impact Assessment on the site.  A true EIA can take 1 – 2 years so it’ll be interesting to see long they give it!

We know that it is essential that any objections are factual and valid within Planning Law so we’re seeking professional advice and looking at the costs of possible legal representation and that of any our own Surveys – this may be needed if we disagree with Go Ape’s evidence. We are also in contact with other Action Groups that have opposed Go Ape – some successfully – and learning from their opposition.

Many of you may not have seen the article in the Chronicle stating that ‘Go Ape is Coming to Moel Famau’ and a Forestry Commission Press Release (March 12th) says that ‘they are seeking the public’s views’ so we would suggest that we all let them know our view.  We can do this by contacting Steve Crosby of the Forestry Commission at Steve.Crosby@forestry.gsi.gov.uk and by adding our views to the Go Ape Discussion wall at http://moelfammau.openforum.zipwild.com.

We need to let them know we don’t want Go Ape on Moel Famau!

Three committee members went down to the Wyre Forest Go Ape site on the 8th April to meet with Tristram Mayhew, one of the directors of Go Ape. He made it quite clear that the company fully intend to pursue this project and were investing money in noise and environmental impact studies together with traffic surveys etc to back up their planning application. He seemed little impressed by our AONB status, and objections to change in the status quo, pointing out that the company had various facilities in other protected sites such as National Parks. He has never visited Moel Famau! He felt that in the end, it would be up to the planners to balance the argument between economic gains versus environmental and visual impact and to measure the strength of local objection.

This month there will also be a meeting with Brynle Williams one of our local AMs and a meeting with our MP is also planned.  So far, they have all been really helpful and supportive.

It is possible that one or two local businesses may benefit from Zip Wild and we respect this. However, during a visit to the Go Ape site at Delamere, we noted that the local pub had closed down and the well known Station Café was up for sale with apparently very few customers – everyone seemed to be down at the Visitors Centre Café……..Is that what’s planned for the Forestry Car park area????

We’re all working hard at spreading opposition to the Zip Wild proposal and are pleased that we’re also getting lots of support from regular visitors to the area too. Please keep up the good work!

The next  Save Moel Famau Committee meeting is on Monday 26th April at 8.30pm. Do get in touch if you’d like to attend or have any specific items for discussion.

 SMF Committee 


Good for local business???

We’ve just come back from a reccy of the Delamere Go Ape.  The first thing that struck us is that Delamere is a vast forest, like Grizedale, and that it would be easy to walk there without going anywhere near the Go Ape site – not so if here on Moel Famau!

Access is just off a two lane A road, down a short (we assumed Forsetry owned?) track – just two houses and no-one walking along it.   Not so on the Moel Famau lane!

While the site itself did seem reasonably ‘in keeping’ the first sounds we heard,  from about 1/4mile away, were those of the Zip Wire followed by the shouts of the couple people using them.  Multiply that by five, add on another 58 people an hour – horrible!

Chatting to a helpful member of FC staff we asked if there were any problems with the Go Ape site, no, was the answer, the only complaints are about the traffic and the shouting…….

Finally, we thought we’d see how local business’  have fared, after all, that is one of Go Ape’s selling points.  Ah, the Delamere pub has closed down and the little cafe at the station up for sale, not many customers in there either.  Oh, but the Forestry Commission cafe (on site) is buzzing!  The locals must be delighted……….

Clwydian Range AONB

Go Ape’s intentions for Moel Famau are all the more concerning because of the Country Park’s status as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB).  This is Go Ape’s first foray into an AONB.  If they succeed here than it will potentially open the proverbial flood gates, allowing them to explore possibilities in the UK’s 46 other AONBs.

But are Go Ape’s plans compatible with the AONB’s protected status?


Areas of Outstanding National Beauty are considered to be some of the country’s most valuable landscapes and are protected and managed by law to maintain their special character for now and for future generations.

The intended development by Go Ape will not maintain Moel Famau’s special  character – it will change it beyond all recognition.


A guide for AONB partnership members has been published by the Countryside Agency and highlights that the primary purpose of AONB designation is to conserve and enhance natural beauty. However, in pursuing the primary purpose account should be taken of the needs of agriculture, forestry, other rural industries and of the economic and social needs of local communities. Particular regard should be paid to promoting sustainable forms of social and economic development that in themselves conserve and enhance the environment.  It also clarifies that recreation is not an objective of designation, but the demand for recreation should be met so far as this is consistent with the conservation of natural beauty and the needs of agriculture, forestry and other uses.

Introducing the Go Ape brand of recreation into this protected area is not consistent with the needs of its current usage.


Go Ape have a great product and undoubtedly bring a lot of pleasure to many people. However, we do not believe that such an important AONB is a suitable location for their venture.

(Extracts from CLWYDIAN RANGE AONB SUSTAINABLE TOURISM STRATEGY AND ACTION PLAN)


How Big!?!

A lot of people have been wondering just how much of a problem five zip wires can be.  Take a look at the Cwm Bach page to gain an understanding of the sheer scale of Go Ape’s intended intrusion into the Moel Famau Country Park.

Come Back Soon…

Please visit us again real soon.

We hope to have the site up and running and reporting on the latest developments with Go Ape within the next week.

Until then, find out a little more about us here.